【新唐人2012年9月6日讯】“中国公共知识份子”姚监复在《新史记》杂志上公布，“中国农村改革之父”杜润生回答有关“六四”问题的谈话记录。谈话记录内容中显示，在“六四”问题上江泽民是“不干净”的，没有“六四”，轮不到江泽民当总书记。因此，杜润生认为，对“六四”的平反，实际上是对江泽民执政权的一个否定，所以，“六四”也就难以平反。
姚监复将2005年3月17号杜润生回答有关“六四”问题的谈话记录，公布了出来，登载在《新史记》杂志上，作为对杜润生百岁诞辰的祝贺。
杜润生在当时的谈话中表示，在“六四”问题上江泽民是不干净的，没有“六四”，轮不到江泽民当总书记。
原史学教授刘因全表示，江泽民在“六四”以前就是镇压民主运动的先驱，做了很多讨好保守派，来镇压改革派，打击改革派的事情。
原史学教授 刘因全：“江泽民事实上是踏着六四学生的血迹到了北京，到了中南海的，他是六四事件的一个既得利益者。 ”
杜润生还指出，当年江泽民查封了上海《世界经济导报》，致使89学潮进一步激化。据历史资料记载，1989年4月15号，胡耀邦病逝后，作为《世界经济导报》总编辑、中共党组成员的钦本立，决定在当天的《导报》头版显着位置上，向胡耀邦表示哀悼，并打算开辟专栏悼念胡耀邦。然而，却遭到江泽民的严厉斥责和撤职。
因为，《世界经济导报》当时被认为是大陆思想最开放的报纸，很受学术界和青年学生的欢迎，当《导报》被江泽民封杀后，“导报事件”也是史无前例的把新闻工作者和广大知识份子都卷入了89年那场民主运动。
因此，杜润生认为，对“六四”的平反，实际上对江泽民执政权是一个否定，也就难以平反。
孙文广表示，江泽民在六四事件上的罪责是无法推脱的。
山东大学退休教授孙文广：“也牵扯到共产党的合法性，文革是一场浩劫，六四实际上也是一场浩劫，它不但打死一些人，抓了一些人，判了一些人，枪决了一些人，而且把整个的赵紫阳、胡耀邦他们开启的政治体制改革，就把它一刀两断，终止了，这个是更为严重的一种倒退活动。”
刘因全：“如果平反了六四，江泽民在六四以前搞的那些镇压六四、为镇压六四镇压铺垫的一些动作，以及在镇压六四期间的一些动作，和镇压六四以后的他的一些保守的、反攻倒算的这些动作都会被揭露出来，这样江泽民和他的这个派系就会被彻底的瓦解。”
不过，镇压六四之后，已经沾满血债的江泽民不但不反省，还继续迫害信仰“真、善、忍”的法轮功学员，导致成千上万的家庭破碎。
《真相网》报导，2002年10月22号，江泽民被法轮功学员以“反人类罪”和“群体灭绝罪”告上美国伊州北区法庭以后，江泽民先后被海外法轮功学员在瑞士、英国、澳洲、比利时、西班牙、台湾、德国、加拿大、希腊、香港以“反人类罪”和“群体灭绝罪”起诉。堪称21世纪人类最大的诉讼案。
采访编辑/唐睿 后制/朱娣
Justice for ‘June 4th’ is Difficult
Yao Jianfu, a public intellectual in China, has recently
published a transcript in New Historical Records magazine.
The transcript is an interview of Du Runsheng, the ‘father’
of China’s rural area reform, talking about the 6-4 issue.
6-4 refers to the Tiananmen Square massacre of June 4 1989.
Du’s transcript showed that Jiang Zemin’s
hands are not clean on the issue of 6-4.
Without 6-4, Jiang would not have become
General Secretary of Chinese Communist Party (CCP).
Du believes that to seek justice for 6-4
is to deny Jiang Zemin’s administration.
This makes it hard to have justice for 6-4.
Yao Jianfu published transcripts of Du Runsheng discussing
6-4 on March 17, 2005 in New Historical Records magazine.
This was in commemoration of Du’s 100 birthday.
In Du’s conversation, Jiang Zemin’s hands
are not clean when it comes to 6-4 issue.
Without 6-4, Jiang could not have
become General Secretary of the CCP.
Former History Professor Liu Yinquan said that
Jiang Zemin was a pioneer in suppressing
the democratic movements before 6-4.
In order to suppress reformers, Jiang has done many
practical things to win conservative leaders’ support.
Professor Liu Yinquan: “Jiang Zemin stepped
on the bloodstains of students in 6-4 massacre.
He went to Beijing and to Zhongnanhai,
and benefited from 6-4."
Du Runsheng also pointed out that Jiang Zemin
closed down Shanghai’s World Economic Herald.
This resulted in the intensification
of the student protests in 1989.
According to historical records,
on April 15, 1989, Hu Yaobang died.
As the editor-in-chief of World Economic Herald,
CCP member Qin Benli decided to mourn Hu Yaobang
on a prominent position on the front page.
Qin intended to set up a column in memory of Hu Yaobang,
but was severely reprimanded and dismissed by Jiang.
The World Economic Herald was considered to be the
most open-minded newspaper in China at that time.
It was popular among academics and young students.
After the Herald was closed by Jiang,
in an unprecedented move,
it brought journalists and the majority of
intellectuals into the democratic movement in 1989.
Du Runsheng believes vindicating 6-4 is actually a denial
to Jiang’s administration, so it would be difficult to do.
Sun Wenguang says that Jiang Zemin can’t
shirk the blame for the 6-4 massacre.
Sun Wenguang, retired professor of Shandong University:
“It also involves the legitimacy of the CCP itself.
The Cultural Revolution was a catastrophe, 6-4 is too.
It has not only killed people, imprisoned people, sentenced
people, and shot people, it has also broke from the political reform led by Zhao Ziyang and Hu Yaobang.
These actions are a more serious setback."
Liu Yinquan: “If we had justice for the 6-4 massacre, it would
disclose Jiang Zemin’s actions in preparing the 6-4 massacre,
his actions during the massacre, and his fighting back with
conservatives after the 6-4 massacre.
Jiang and his whole faction would be completely
disintegrated."
After suppressing the 6-4 movement, Jiang,
who had been stained with blood, did not stop.
Jiang continued with the persecution
of Falun Gong practitioners, who believe in “truthfulness, benevolence, and forbearance".
This has resulting in tens of thousands of broken families.
Truth Network reported that on October 22, 2002,
Jiang Zemin was sued in the U.S. Illinois Northern
District court by Falun Gong practitioners.
Jiang was accused of “crimes against humanity"
and “genocide".
After that, Jiang has been sued by overseas Falun Gong
practitioners in Switzerland, the United Kingdom, Australia,
Belgium, Spain, Taiwan, Germany, Canada, Greece
and Hong Kong for “crimes against humanity" and “genocide".
It is the largest lawsuit for mankind in the 21st century.
