【新唐人2012年4月2日讯】2月6号发生的王立军事件使中共高层的矛盾浮出水面，并引发薄熙来被解职等一系列中共政局的变化。“六四”学运领袖、宗教学博士封从德谈近期中共政局变化，呼吁民众抛弃对中共的幻想，依靠自己，推进民主。请看本台旧金山记者对封从德的专访。
近期，网站上还出现了李洪志大师，《转法轮》等被中共封锁的内容。
封从德：“我也注意观察，解禁了很多。神韵艺术团，比如说，突然在百度就能够搜索出来，而且到哪儿去订票我都看得见了。整个的流量，从我的六四网站上来看，一下子增加了两倍到三倍。这种状况我觉得，表明中共高层在火并的时候，他可能要换班，中间有很多混乱的状况，中间有些人，或者说在换班的时候，他有一个空档期，或者主观上他就罢工了，或者他骚乱来了，他就把一个窗口给打开了。把一些敏感词的名单就给去掉了。所以一下子国内的网民就可以上到海外的这些网站上来。这是中共体制内的网络警察，他们突然自己把窗口打开，类似于这种插播。这种状况我相信，以后会越来越多。而且在中共越来越控制不住局势的时候，互联网的防火墙，这个大坝就会像柏林墙一样被推倒。因为人总是有良心的，人总是需要知道真相的。人总是不喜欢自己一辈子都受骗的。”
封从德认为，中共讲的无神论与中国传统文化格格不入。
封从德：“一方面，它首先讲国际主义，讲无神论，这个是和中国的传统文化格格不入的，甚至是严重冲突的。所以，初期毛泽东时代的时候，文革，是要把这些当作四旧，全部要砸烂的。 但是现在中共，要把孔子像给竖到天安门广场，全世界又办了那么多孔子学院。这就是像刚才讲的，毛左和邓右的区别。毛泽东时代是破坏传统的，邓小平时代要利用传统。但是他们根本并不是继承传统，更不是要发扬传统。他是搞一个假的一个假象。你比如说孔子学院，如果孔子穿越空间，走到一家孔子学院，他马上要气死，又回到两千年前。为什么，因为他一个字都不会认识的。因为里边全是简体字么。孔子学院为什么不教中国两千年来一直用的这个正体字呢?”
对于胡温以及中共体制内的改革，能否给中国带来希望?
封从德：“我觉得它会产生一定的松动，但是希望谈不上，因为扯着自己的头发永远也到不了月球。土匪它的特质不可能自己把自己改变成不是土匪。它只是要把另外一帮内部的火并，另外一群威胁它权力的另外一群土匪给干掉。他还是土匪。 ”
他认为不能对中共体制内的变革抱有幻想。
封从德：“这一套黑暗的制度要把它彻底清除，所以不能寄望于中共自身的改革。我还记得，好多年以前，胡温刚要上台的时候，大家还在那儿吹嘘，包括很多美国的这些学者，都在那儿期待说有什么胡温新政，现在胡温都快要交班了，有什么新政？所以现在大家又来期待着习近平有什么新政，在我看来是做梦。因为集权专制的结构，是让任何一个人在那个位置上，他都可能随便的去损害其他人的利益。”
封从德认为，温家宝可以学习前辈的榜样。
封从德：“中共如果是走独裁的这条路，它的下场就可能是卡扎非，可能是齐奥塞斯库。如果他们中间，另外一个极端，如果是温家宝，天天喊，假装要民主，要怎么样，如果他来真的了，他最好就是像蒋经国，最好的榜样。第二个是戈尔巴乔夫。蒋经国现在台湾老百姓都还很怀念他，不管是蓝营、绿营。都是觉得他对台湾有极大的贡献。戈尔巴乔夫也是啊，至少民众的威望，国际上的声誉都是非常好。”
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Interview with Feng Congde Regarding Recent Chinese Communist Political Changes
Conflict amongst high ranking Chinese communists has
surfaced since the Wang Lijun incident on February 6th.
Consequently, a series of changes in the CCP hierarchy
has occurred, such as Bo Xilai being sacked.
A student leader of the 1989 Tiananmen movement, Dr. Feng
Congde, talks about the recent Chinese Communist political changes,
and calls on people to abandon any illusion of the
CCP and walk the path to democracy on their own.
The following is our exclusive interview with Feng Congde
in San Francisco.
Recently, information related to Mr. Li Hongzhi and Zhuan
Falun which CCP banned, could be viewed again on a Chinese web site.
Feng Congde: “I have been watching, and a lot of banned
information has been made available recently.
Shen Yun Performing Arts, for example, is suddenly
searchable on Baidu, even the ticket center is available.
The internet traffic volume has also doubled and
even tripled according to my 64memo.com website.
I feel the infighting amongst high ranking communist
officials represents a shift in the CCP leadership.
With the chaos came a gap wherein while people are now in
the state of strike or unrest, the ban has gone to the wayside.
In this case, the internet police within the CCP system
suddenly open the window just like the TV interception.
I believe situations like this will take place more often.
As the CCP is losing its control, the internet firewall
will be torn down like the Berlin Wall.
Because there’s a conscience in people, people always seek
the truth. No one likes to be deceived."
Feng Congde believes the Communist atheism is alien to
traditional Chinese culture.
Feng Congde: “On the one hand, it (Communism) first talks
about internationalism and atheism which are incompatible with, and even seriously violates, China’s traditional culture.
Therefore, there was Cultural Revolution early on in the Mao
Zedong era, to smash what they called the four olds.
But now the CCP is planning to set a Confucius statue in
Tiananmen Square and Confucius Institutes around the world.
This is what’s called the “left Mao, and right Deng.”
Mao era undermined traditions and the Deng Xiaoping era
exploited the tradition.
It’s not about inheriting the tradition or carrying forward the
tradition. The CPC engages in creating a false illusion.
Take the Confucius Institute as an example, if Confucius,
through another dimension, went to a Confucius Institute,
he’d bound to be angry and return it back to (the way
things were) two thousand years ago. Why?
Because he would not recognize a word.
There is only simplified Chinese available.
Why wouldn’t a Confucius Institute use traditional Chinese
characters that have been used for the past two thousand years?"
Will Hu and Wen and the Chinese Communist system reform
bring hope to China?
Feng Congde: “I think it will come loose, but not as far
as the Chinese hope.
No one will go to the moon by pulling himself.
Bandits will never correct themselves.
After it eliminates the threat of internal fights,
the nature of a bandit still remains."
He discourages any illusions about political reform
within the CCP regime.
Feng Congde: “This is a dark system that has to be completely
eliminated. Do not place hope in the Communist Party reform.
I still remember many years ago when Hu and Wen came
to power, everyone bragged, including many US scholars,
when looking to the new policies of both Hu and Wen.
They are now in the end of their term, was there ever
any new policy?
Now everyone is once again placing hope to Xi Jinping
for some new policy; I think it’s just a dream.
A centralized authoritarian structure is to allow anyone in
that position to casually undermine the interests of others."
Feng Congde believes Wen Jiabao should learn the lessons of
his predecessors.
Feng Congde: “With the dictatorship route, the Communist
Chinese are going to be like either Qaddafi or Ceausescu.
Among them, the other extreme, such as Wen Jiabao,
pretends he wants democracy and calls for it everyday.
If he plays the real thing, he’d be like Chiang Ching-kuo,
the best example, or Gorbachev, the next best.
Chiang Ching-kuo, regardless of his political stance,
is still missed by the people of Taiwan.
He was believed to have greatly contributed to Taiwan.
Gorbachev is also enjoying public prestige and
an international reputation."
