【新唐人2012年9月6日訊】「中國公共知識份子」姚監復在《新史記》雜誌上公布，「中國農村改革之父」杜潤生回答有關「六四」問題的談話記錄。談話記錄內容中顯示，在「六四」問題上江澤民是「不乾淨」的，沒有「六四」，輪不到江澤民當總書記。因此，杜潤生認為，對「六四」的平反，實際上是對江澤民執政權的一個否定，所以，「六四」也就難以平反。
姚監復將2005年3月17號杜潤生回答有關「六四」問題的談話記錄，公布了出來，登載在《新史記》雜誌上，作為對杜潤生百歲誕辰的祝賀。
杜潤生在當時的談話中表示，在「六四」問題上江澤民是不乾淨的，沒有「六四」，輪不到江澤民當總書記。
原史學教授劉因全表示，江澤民在「六四」以前就是鎮壓民主運動的先驅，做了很多討好保守派，來鎮壓改革派，打擊改革派的事情。
原史學教授 劉因全：「江澤民事實上是踏著六四學生的血跡到了北京，到了中南海的，他是六四事件的一個既得利益者。 」
杜潤生還指出，當年江澤民查封了上海《世界經濟導報》，致使89學潮進一步激化。據歷史資料記載，1989年4月15號，胡耀邦病逝後，作為《世界經濟導報》總編輯、中共黨組成員的欽本立，決定在當天的《導報》頭版顯著位置上，向胡耀邦表示哀悼，並打算開闢專欄悼念胡耀邦。然而，卻遭到江澤民的嚴厲斥責和撤職。
因為，《世界經濟導報》當時被認為是大陸思想最開放的報紙，很受學術界和青年學生的歡迎，當《導報》被江澤民封殺後，「導報事件」也是史無前例的把新聞工作者和廣大知識份子都捲入了89年那場民主運動。
因此，杜潤生認為，對「六四」的平反，實際上對江澤民執政權是一個否定，也就難以平反。
孫文廣表示，江澤民在六四事件上的罪責是無法推脫的。
山東大學退休教授孫文廣：「也牽扯到共產黨的合法性，文革是一場浩劫，六四實際上也是一場浩劫，它不但打死一些人，抓了一些人，判了一些人，槍決了一些人，而且把整個的趙紫陽、胡耀邦他們開啟的政治體制改革，就把它一刀兩斷，終止了，這個是更為嚴重的一種倒退活動。」
劉因全：「如果平反了六四，江澤民在六四以前搞的那些鎮壓六四、為鎮壓六四鎮壓鋪墊的一些動作，以及在鎮壓六四期間的一些動作，和鎮壓六四以後的他的一些保守的、反攻倒算的這些動作都會被揭露出來，這樣江澤民和他的這個派系就會被徹底的瓦解。」
不過，鎮壓六四之後，已經沾滿血債的江澤民不但不反省，還繼續迫害信仰「真、善、忍」的法輪功學員，導致成千上萬的家庭破碎。
《真相網》報導，2002年10月22號，江澤民被法輪功學員以「反人類罪」和「群體滅絕罪」告上美國伊州北區法庭以後，江澤民先後被海外法輪功學員在瑞士、英國、澳洲、比利時、西班牙、台灣、德國、加拿大、希臘、香港以「反人類罪」和「群體滅絕罪」起訴。堪稱21世紀人類最大的訴訟案。
採訪編輯/唐睿 後製/朱娣
Justice for ‘June 4th’ is Difficult
Yao Jianfu, a public intellectual in China, has recently
published a transcript in New Historical Records magazine.
The transcript is an interview of Du Runsheng, the ‘father’
of China’s rural area reform, talking about the 6-4 issue.
6-4 refers to the Tiananmen Square massacre of June 4 1989.
Du’s transcript showed that Jiang Zemin’s
hands are not clean on the issue of 6-4.
Without 6-4, Jiang would not have become
General Secretary of Chinese Communist Party (CCP).
Du believes that to seek justice for 6-4
is to deny Jiang Zemin’s administration.
This makes it hard to have justice for 6-4.
Yao Jianfu published transcripts of Du Runsheng discussing
6-4 on March 17, 2005 in New Historical Records magazine.
This was in commemoration of Du’s 100 birthday.
In Du’s conversation, Jiang Zemin’s hands
are not clean when it comes to 6-4 issue.
Without 6-4, Jiang could not have
become General Secretary of the CCP.
Former History Professor Liu Yinquan said that
Jiang Zemin was a pioneer in suppressing
the democratic movements before 6-4.
In order to suppress reformers, Jiang has done many
practical things to win conservative leaders’ support.
Professor Liu Yinquan: “Jiang Zemin stepped
on the bloodstains of students in 6-4 massacre.
He went to Beijing and to Zhongnanhai,
and benefited from 6-4."
Du Runsheng also pointed out that Jiang Zemin
closed down Shanghai’s World Economic Herald.
This resulted in the intensification
of the student protests in 1989.
According to historical records,
on April 15, 1989, Hu Yaobang died.
As the editor-in-chief of World Economic Herald,
CCP member Qin Benli decided to mourn Hu Yaobang
on a prominent position on the front page.
Qin intended to set up a column in memory of Hu Yaobang,
but was severely reprimanded and dismissed by Jiang.
The World Economic Herald was considered to be the
most open-minded newspaper in China at that time.
It was popular among academics and young students.
After the Herald was closed by Jiang,
in an unprecedented move,
it brought journalists and the majority of
intellectuals into the democratic movement in 1989.
Du Runsheng believes vindicating 6-4 is actually a denial
to Jiang’s administration, so it would be difficult to do.
Sun Wenguang says that Jiang Zemin can’t
shirk the blame for the 6-4 massacre.
Sun Wenguang, retired professor of Shandong University:
“It also involves the legitimacy of the CCP itself.
The Cultural Revolution was a catastrophe, 6-4 is too.
It has not only killed people, imprisoned people, sentenced
people, and shot people, it has also broke from the political reform led by Zhao Ziyang and Hu Yaobang.
These actions are a more serious setback."
Liu Yinquan: “If we had justice for the 6-4 massacre, it would
disclose Jiang Zemin’s actions in preparing the 6-4 massacre,
his actions during the massacre, and his fighting back with
conservatives after the 6-4 massacre.
Jiang and his whole faction would be completely
disintegrated."
After suppressing the 6-4 movement, Jiang,
who had been stained with blood, did not stop.
Jiang continued with the persecution
of Falun Gong practitioners, who believe in “truthfulness, benevolence, and forbearance".
This has resulting in tens of thousands of broken families.
Truth Network reported that on October 22, 2002,
Jiang Zemin was sued in the U.S. Illinois Northern
District court by Falun Gong practitioners.
Jiang was accused of “crimes against humanity"
and “genocide".
After that, Jiang has been sued by overseas Falun Gong
practitioners in Switzerland, the United Kingdom, Australia,
Belgium, Spain, Taiwan, Germany, Canada, Greece
and Hong Kong for “crimes against humanity" and “genocide".
It is the largest lawsuit for mankind in the 21st century.
